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February 03, 2011

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Never ever watch Question Time. It's never ever worth it.

BenSix

Hertz is engaged to Danny Cohen, the Channel controller of BBC One.

Mark Eltringham

Another way of seeing it would be that Damian Green was defending - badly - Government policies that you could see he found indefensible.

Andrew King

The phrase 'flailing around in a kind of Dunning-Kruger vortex' has already made my day complete and I've not even had breakfast yet. It doesn't get much better...

Alex

Meanwhile, seen on @monaeltahawy - "Oh, Zizek, how did you get involved in this??"

I hate to think. Apparently he had what Michael Frayn would call a "tlvsn pprnc".

chris y

According to the pedia thing, she was selected as 'Young Global Leader of Tomorrow' by the World Economic Forum, but that was the day before yesterday. Can you cite examples of her complete idiocy?

Alex

Er, no. But I've only been reading since the revolution broke out. Is this the moment?

Richard J

She had a brief moment of fame in the anti-globalisation movement at the turn of the last decade for being the [not-bad looking] sinner who repented, IIRC.

Cian

And for writing a book (which was fucking terrible, as I recall) that came out around the same time as some other anti-globo books.

Richard J

I was out last night, but (depressingly) checking my Twitter feed, and it just exploded with complaints whenever she spoke. Which, on a panel including Mad Mel, is an impressive feat.

Alex

Can Chris clarify if he means Noreena Hertz or Mona Eltahawy?

ejh

Never ever watch Question Time. It's never ever worth it.

Advice I've adhered to for close to thirty years and never regretted it.

ejh

I've never heard of this Hertz, by the way. Is she a rent-a-quote?

Martin Wisse

She wrote The Silent Takeover: Global Capitalism and The Death of Democracy which came out in 2002 just at the cusp of the antiglobalisation movement as a publishing trend.

CharlieMcMenamin

Do read her Wikipedia entry. It's priceless. Her innate modesty comes shining through, even tho' she's obviously written it herself - e.g. no mention of her 25 yd swimming certificate, and desperately little on her ultra successful time as a sixer in the Brownies.

dsquared

which was fucking terrible, as I recall

You recall correctly.

Cian

According to the Wikipedia article she also helped set up RED. So another one for the prosecution.

Like Justin I've never watched QT. Is it worse than "Any Questions" (which I listen to for as long as it takes me to find the off switch)?

Richard J

Any Questions is just about tolerable if I'm in the right mood. Any Fuckwits, however...

skidmarx

I listened to her talk garbage on Egypt for a couple of minutes before deciding that David Mitchell attacking post office privatisation on The 10 O'Clock Show was much preferable.
Kindest thing to say was that at least she wasn't quite as much of an arse as Carol Vordeman a few months ago.

ejh

Actually her Wikipedia entry looks all right untuil you get to 2005 when some bad words start cropping up. One does suspect that she may have had a hand in its composition though. Anyway, what was so bad about her performance?

I have actually seen the show: I'm just reasonably sure I was doing my A-Levels the last time this occurred.

ejh

Johann Hari's Wikipedia entry used to have a certain CV-ish feel about it, too.

BenSix

Her innate modesty comes shining through, even tho' she's obviously written it herself...

She was dense but was she dense enough to cite Bono's praise with anything other than shame?

Richard J

Bono is, like Dubai, one of the strange excressences of the modern world that our lords and masters have a fondness for.

Charlie

It's a shame the U2 tower didn't get built: it would have a made a nice monument to the (theretofore unforeseeable) convergence of Bono and Dubai.

Charlie

Bono:

"I had to play it, because I wanted to check the tuning. I heard he played guitar every day, so I wanted to see if that was true. And it gives me some faith that I picked up the prime minister of England's guitar and it was in tune: he does play it."

Richard J

All I'm going to say to that is that Stalin was quite a good adolescent poet, and was apparently lead tenor at his seminary.

CharlieMcMenamin

Ok, retraction: I didn't mean she had literally written her Wiki entry herself. That was a cheap shot, made for laughs.

But I do have a lurking suspicion that there is a certain part of the PR netherworld where bottom feeders make a living by ensuring that the kind of people who think of themselves as 'brands' protect that brand by protecting the public persona, including on Wiki.

I've no proof mind - but its logically, isn't it?

Richard J

I know for a fact that my current employers carefully monitor their wiki page, and the speed and vigilance with which Noreena Hertz's page has been guarded against (accurate) vandalism over the last 24 hours suggests there's some fairly close monitoring there too.

Charlie

I just made myself watch part of last night's Question Time to see what was up with this Noreena Hertz. She doesn't seem to have a self-evaluative faculty. If she did, she'd soon stop with the 'allow me to be the voice of reason' guff. And maybe also with the variable pitch, 110 dB, ever so clear enunciation. She rivals Patricia Hewitt or Thatcher for fuck you very much vocal delivery. You'd rather be lectured by an air raid siren.

'Thank you, Noreena' was a good line from Dimbleby, though.

Charlie

And on the actual content of what she said: did she think it was Just a Minute instead of Question Time? Or did no one tip her off about the questions that might be asked? For example, she did an ad-lib which went: "one of the biggest threats we're going to now actually face is actually cyber-terrorism, which is computers, getting hacked, which can destroy stock markets and government buildings".

Nick L

Hertz was a behind the scenes person in the Make Poverty History campaign as well, hence the Bono connection I would imagine. She was roundly mocked by the more radical elements of the movement for running a corporate responsibility consultancy type operation whilst positioning herself as a global justice type. Like almost everyone, she ended up lamenting what was actually achieved at Gleneagles 2005, said so loudly before the end of the year and then pretty much vanished. Until now it seems!

septicisle

I expect Green will get hauled in for re-education, considering just how obvious it was that he didn't believe in the forestry policy he was having to defend.

Myles

Noreena Hertz reminds me of the annoying, omniscient son of an economist-professor I knew back in prep school. She's quite attractive, though.

Myles

And Damian Green is hopelessly incompetent at media appearances. He should be removed from office forthwith, or something. I see on Wikipedia that he was the president of the Oxford Union. How on earth did that happen?

ejh

Hertz, rent, rent, Hertz, I dunno. Wasted on you people, I am.

Phil

That's rather good, actually. We are not worthy.

chris y

She's quite attractive, though.

Indeedy. But just to redress the balance, can we find a woman to comment about how she'd totally do Damian Green?

BenSix

...just to redress the balance, can we find a woman to comment about how she'd totally do Damian Green?

Woman?

AB

Had long chat with her once. Thick as shit: cute as hell.

burkesworks

The fact that Hertz's other half is now the man in charge of BBC1 says it all about the state of QT these days. Cohen's past record is entirely within the genre of thick shouty yoof-oriented television, having been at the helm of both BBC3 and E4, and it appears he's taking the Corporation's flagship channel down that route.

Cian

Hmm, apparently she has a PhD in economics from Cambridge. Not sure what that demonstrates.

BBC3 does Being Human, which is a pretty good show. Think there's something else on there that's not bad as well.

AB

Dambisa Moyo apparently as an Oxford economics DPhil, and yet does not understand basic national income accounting. I've actually read this wretched book myself for review purposes, and the examples mentioned here are neither exaggerated nor isolated. http://www.economist.com/node/17956741?story_id=17956741

AB

"...apparently HAS..." My northern upbringing at work.

Chris Williams

Just one more datapoint for Williams' Iron Law of Viva Danger: it's the internal you have to watch out for, not the external.

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