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August 22, 2012

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johnf

I wish they could do something useful like get through to Herr Jobs and ask him to explain why his stuff costs so much more than everyone else's and why it steals a whole lot of my older documents and then demands I must pay his corporation money to access them and insists on recording on I-Tunes every CD I just want to play for my entertainment or instruction and finally why he makes it well nigh impossible to transfer to another corporate system once his corporate mechanism has engorged seemingly forever my datas and documents etcs.

ajay

Hang on, I'll look that up on my omPad.

Malcs

"The new earth sprite has a simple and mid-sized celestial castle, which is as tall as a six-story building".

Awesome. I wonder what celestial estate agent Jobs needs to contact to get a larger-sized celestial castle. The imagery in that piece reminds me of IOZ's review of Inception a while back.

In 20 years of Mac use I have to say I haven't had any of the problems that schlachtbummlers spend so much time mithering about on B&T.

belle le triste

Just as old-form Tibetan Buddhism gave us the game of snakes as ladders, so modern Buddhism has gifted us a more modern style of gameplay, on foregrounding the tools and rewards you gain as you move up through the levels.

belle le triste

Snakes AND ladders. Snakes as Ladders never caught on.

dsquared

dibs on Bill Gates for Satanism.

Richard J

dibs on Bill Gates for Satanism.

Really? Contempt for sheeple, reliance on obscure incantations and magic rituals, and a minority pursuit followed by people with too much facial hair? Sounds more like Linus Torvalds to me.

Richard J

[NB: Linus Torvalds is lovely on a personal basis. But look at any comments thread on the internet with Linux tenuously involved.]

Cian

Magic would suggest that Linux is not logic and consistent on its own terms, which it is. Its actually quite elegant and sensible if you know the rules. Windows on the other hand is notorious for its inconsistency, incoherence and sheer bloody mindedness.

ajay

Magic is logical and consistent on its own terms, surely: if you conduct ritual X correctly you will achieve result Y. The stories about people having bad things happen to them through magic happen either because they get some tiny bit of the ritual wrong with disastrous consequences, or because the immensely powerful demons they invoke take great pleasure in following instructions to the letter, with all sorts of unforeseen consequences, both of which sound very like Linux indeed.

I am now picturing Ariel appearing and saying to Prospero "Hi! It looks like you are trying to call down the mighty forces of storm and tempest! Would you like some help? Yes No"

Cian

Well they certainly sound like a particular stereotype of Linux. If you're a sophisticated user, Linux is (mostly) logical and sensible. But you're right, at some level of ignorance any technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Even sophisticated admins of Windows often have no idea why particular solutions work, or what the problem is.

Alex

because the immensely powerful demons they invoke take great pleasure in following instructions to the letter

Like all computers, then.

I am now picturing Ariel appearing and saying to Prospero "Hi! It looks like you are trying to call down the mighty forces of storm and tempest! Would you like some help? Yes No"

Well, in Linux that would be "etc/init.d/wizard invoke -storm -tempest -force=mighty restart", and nothing would happen if you forgot to sudo first.

Alex

Or, for competent users, replace the verbose arguments with -stfm.

dsquared

Magic is logical and consistent on its own terms, surely: if you conduct ritual X correctly you will achieve result Y.

Exactly. It's precisely because the requirements are so consistent and specific that some people (who fail to get a perfectly black cat without a single white hair or some such) conclude erroneously that it doesn't work.

Jakob

Cian: if you're a sophisticated user *of Linux*, sure, but then that's almost tautologous. Maybe things are better these days, but I remember all to well struggling with various distros, window managers, etc., all of which had subtle but important differences in the way they did things; each of which was of course the One True Way.

Jakob

Cian: if you're a sophisticated user *of Linux*, sure, but then that's almost tautologous. Maybe things are better these days, but I remember all to well struggling with various distros, window managers, etc., all of which had subtle but important differences in the way they did things; each of which was of course the One True Way.

Jakob

...and my sophistication as a user is clearly shown by my fat-fingered ability to double-post.

Cian

Well by sophisticated I mean someone who understands how computers work, how UNIX works, is comfortable messing around with shell scripts. The thing about Windows is even if you know that stuff, it makes zero sense. And usually, and I know this because I've spoken to ex MS people who've confirmed it, the reason is that these decisions were made by committee, or through political infighting.

Linux is an OS that an engineer would build. Its logical, robust and once you understand the core fundamentals, it's fairly simple. You can reason about it.

OSX is an OS that a designer would build. It considers the user, its focused and aims for elegance over functionality.

Windows is an OS that a bureaucracy would build. MS is a very bureaucratic and political company, and Windows reflects that.

Phil

by sophisticated I mean someone who understands how computers work, how UNIX works, is comfortable messing around with shell scripts. The thing about Windows is even if you know that stuff, it makes zero sense

I used to work with people who knew about the AS/400, a technically beautiful* but over-engineered and wildly over-priced IBM machine which was (at the time) threatened by the rise of Windows NT. One of my contacts decided to teach himself NT and started asking questions to which he thought there would be easy answers. There weren't. (Where are the logs that say when something's about to fail? Oh. OK, but where are the logs that say when something has failed? Oh. I see. And this blue screen, I guess that's like a dump, and it tells you... Oh, it doesn't. Well, never mind.)

You guess, he told me; you look at the blue screen and you guess what's happened. And if that fails, you pay someone to come out - and they look at the blue screen and guess for you.

*And I mean beautiful. Virtualisation at the level of the operating system. Virtualisation as part of the operating system, basically. Upgrade to a processor with a different word-length and you didn't even need to re-compile** your programs - try that with a Windows box. Should have ruled the world. But see above re: IBM, wildly over-priced.

**OK, you did need to re-link.

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