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December 21, 2007

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Chris Brooke

You celebrate Newton Day

We've been here before. The great utopian socialist Saint-Simon at one point in his life (Letter to the Inhabitants of Geneva, if memory serves -- I'm away from my books right now) wanted a "religion of Newton" to replace Christianity, and thought that there should be a Mausoleum of Newton in every large town that would be able to transport people to different planets.

CKR

Well said, Jamie.

ajay

thought that there should be a Mausoleum of Newton in every large town that would be able to transport people to different planets.

Saint-Simon: made of awesome.

ejh

Once you get rid of God, you also have to get rid of the urge towards a big explanation for which God was meant to be the answer.

You mean some sort of moral-ethical explanation, presumably? As opposed to the scientific investigation of our origins - thus "how we come to be here" remains pertinent but "why we come to be here" does not.

I do think we need to have some sort of philosophical explanation of why (and if) we have any duty as human beings to behave well to one another. I partly say so because there's a very me-centred philosophy about that's very atheistic and it's not the sort of atheism I like.

jamie

"I do think we need to have some sort of philosophical explanation of why (and if) we have any duty as human beings to behave well to one another"

I don't think this needs to be connected to a grand theory of why we are all here in the first place, whether scientific or religous. It might be harder to generate a theory of mutual obligation in the first place without it, but I think it might tend to stick harder should you succeed: at any rate, a theoiry of "why we should behave morally" is less likely to morph into "why my superior morals give me the right to have power over you."

ejh

I don't think this needs to be connected to a grand theory of why we are all here in the first place, whether scientific or religous.

No, but it does probably need to be connected to a theory of what we are. Which is probably easier come to by people who think that we were made in a certain shape than by people who are trying to discover (and debate) what our shape is.

Backword Dave

"... a Mausoleum of Newton in every large town that would be able to transport people to different planets."

Proof, if proof were needed, that our national broadcaster is secretly indoctrinating (ho!) our children in socialism and atheism. Happy Newton Day!

Ken MacLeod

Without wishing to detract from your main point, The Portable Atheist is a damned good book.

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