Over the past few days I think Sky has demonstrated the difference between an actual news source subject to latent or overt bias and/or occasional political influence and an outright government broadcasting organisation. Evidence in Chief: it’s wall to wall coverage of the papal visit, far beyond a level in which any audience is likely to be interested. In other words, I think it took a hit on its bottom line to please the object of its political favour.
The weak part of this argument is that I’m at a loss to know why the government made the ability to claim that the visit was a success such a priority. But the timeline’s clear. Baroness Warsi fires the starting gun with her claim that the government does “do God”. Papal puffery starts sprouting in rightwing newspapers, Sky sends in the panzers, and the Prime Minister, cheeks as rosy as a young seminarian chased round an altar, offers Benny a fulsome sendoff from the executive suites at Birmingham airport.
As I say, I’m not sure why. There’s the fact that most Catholics still vote Labour, but even if Cameron flatters the hierarchy round, catholic voters have long since stopped taking instructions from their priests. “Big Society?” Sure, but the religious want to get on the payroll, not replace it. Or just an easy win? Maybe, but it seems to me that the government got rather too close to the church in the process. Perhaps it’s just another example of the flaky aspects of the Cameron approach, its odd enthusiasms and misplaced emphases.
Still, I suppose it will become pretty clear before too long what Murdoch wants in return for turning his employees so wholeheartedly over to celestial enthusiasm.
Data point: I went to my college's Gaudy earlier this year for 94-96 matriculants, which is about the stage in life that you get a fairly good idea of whether it's turned out ok for them, and also a sample set that has a bias away from the extremes to the norm. It was actually quite surprising how many had recently (voluntarily or otherwise) quit consultancy-type jobs, and were now doing socially worthwhile stuff. Most people would have been in the higher-rate band, true, but only just.
(Looking at my two closest friends from uni days, one earns £30k-ish, t'other is about three bosses from the head of a very large investment bank. I'm definitely higher-rate, but much closer to the first than the other...)
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Hmm. Seems like Richard was up at exactly the same time as I was. Gaudy for my lot revealed lots who had stayed in academia, which may involve power but not really money...
Posted by: ajay | September 27, 2010 at 01:01 PM
Oxford/Cambridge students don't really slum it though, do they? Compared to most students they are doing very nicely. Subsidised rent, food, beer. Excellent facilities. Good access to summer jobs. I think most students there are aware of this. And actually compared to most people their age, they are also very privileged. Even now with student loans.
My experience of having a Cambridge degree is that while it might not be a meal ticket exactly, it helps. Its tipped the balance for two job applications (for well paid, upper tax, blah, blah), and an application for DPhil funding. Its definitely an edge, and not really one I've deserved.
Posted by: Cian | September 27, 2010 at 01:04 PM
What cian said - certainly the thought of paying for London living costs was what tipped the balance between UCL/Oxford for me.
(Also, to be fair, the 2 E offer.)
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 01:14 PM
Cian? ajay? skidmarx?
Did anyone here not go to Oxbridge?
Posted by: Phil | September 27, 2010 at 03:32 PM
It's always struck me that, more than any other field I know of, the UK political blogosphere has an enormous Oxbridge contingent.
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 03:40 PM
It must be that legendarily unshakeable sense of our own superiority.
Posted by: ajay | September 27, 2010 at 03:43 PM
I'd go for the tutorial/supervision system selecting/producing (which way round causality works I don't know) people able to bullshit fluently without knowing anything about a topic.
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 03:50 PM
For the record: a couple of months in 1982 "studying" English Lit at UCL, followed by the Media Studies course at what used to be Polytechnic of Central London - the very same course that Charlie Brooker dropped out of a few years later.
Which means that to the extent that comments add value to a blog, then you're all working for Polytechnic Boy from Stoke.
Posted by: jamie | September 27, 2010 at 04:29 PM
Which means that to the extent that comments add value to a blog, then you're all working for Polytechnic Boy from Stoke.
It's relevant to note, I think, that comments threads are most active during UK office hours.
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 04:39 PM
Jesus, ajay, you are wise beyond your years: I'd guess you're running at about 940 microharrowells at this point.
By the way, Richard, £30k ish puts you nicely up the scale of the UK's income distribution: 91% of the way up, says the IFS.
Posted by: Chris Williams | September 27, 2010 at 05:00 PM
By the way, Richard, £30k ish puts you nicely up the scale of the UK's income distribution: 91% of the way up, says the IFS.
God, yes. But in London it puts you pretty much bang on average... (Distorted sample set, I know.)
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_labour/ASHE-2009/tab7_7a.xls
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 05:09 PM
The huge median/mean distortion in London full-time male salaries tells its own story, I think.
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 05:18 PM
I'd guess you're running at about 940 microharrowells at this point.
Thanks - with assiduous work I plan to make it up to a milliharrowell soon.
Posted by: ajay | September 27, 2010 at 05:27 PM
If I've cyberstalked the man enough, isn't Alex significantly (ie. a few years) younger than most of us anyway?
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 05:31 PM
Yes, ISTR him mentioning a 30th birthday fairly recently.
Posted by: ajay | September 27, 2010 at 05:40 PM
There's also the fact that 30K will buy you fuck all, housing wise.
Phil I went to Robinson college, so I'm not sure it strictly counts as going to Cambridge...
Posted by: Cian | September 27, 2010 at 05:40 PM
Yeah, but its all down hill once you get past 30 though. Eyesight goes, small kids means that you're lucky to get more than 6 hours sleep, you only have to so much look at a glass of wine and you get a hangover. Your wife asks you why exactly you have all those shelves filled with arcane military specs, and wouldn't this make a great playroom. And then one day you wake up and realise that you have no idea what Arcade Fire are, or why you're supposed to care. You got old maaan.
Seriously, I give Alex like six months and he'll be like the rest of us.
Posted by: Cian | September 27, 2010 at 05:47 PM
Your wife asks you why exactly you have all those shelves filled with arcane military specs, and wouldn't this make a great playroom
Having spent this weekend weeding out 200 books to go to charity shops, I can attest to the truth of this.
Posted by: Richard J | September 27, 2010 at 06:10 PM
I'm 42 and thus in a position to warn you striplings that is the year that your knees go.
Sorry Ajay - for micro read milli, and blame my anti-numerate post-16 education, in which British culture led to the decline of my industrial spirit.
Posted by: Chris Williams | September 27, 2010 at 06:53 PM
Chris, that's great news - would never have thought that my knees have another nine years to go after the grief I've given them...on the other hand, I've been asking things like "who are arcade fire?" for years now.
Posted by: ajay | September 27, 2010 at 09:19 PM
What is an Arcadia Fire?
Posted by: Phil | September 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM
A non-Oxbridge datapoint from a lurker and very occasional commenter: Imperial and University of Manchester, and I apparently have a while yet before my knees give out.
Posted by: Jakob | September 27, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Et in arcadia ignus, Phil. (chortles donnishly)
Posted by: ajay | September 28, 2010 at 09:23 AM
I am but a poor barefoot boy from the London Business School. And Oxford, obviously, that goes without saying.
I think Coldplay were the first band that I went through the normal media cycle of having vague interest in, to ignoring, to actually hating, to making the contrarian case for a positive re-evaluation of, all without ever either hearing a note they played, or even considering the possibility of doing so. It's strangely relaxing.
Posted by: dsquared | September 28, 2010 at 09:31 AM
The Pete Doherty saga was my Coldplay, except with the last stage being replaced by a basic human sympathy, rather than a defense of the music (which seemed to be a meat and potatoes retrash of the Clash, AFAICT.)
Now, these days, I've got into 20th century classical and Wagnerian opera, which, to my delight, offers so many opportunities for indie-style oneupmanship it's unreal. Not only do you have the 'I like a more obscure composer than you' game, there's the next level of 'that's not the best recording', but, for advanced players, there's 'that's not [performer X]'s best version of [piece Y]'. 'Sall good.
Posted by: Richard J | September 28, 2010 at 09:49 AM
For 'retrash' read 'retread' or 'rehash', of course.
Posted by: Richard J | September 28, 2010 at 09:50 AM
I hope your interst in twentieth century classical music stops at the point it became genuinely shit instead of merely challenging.
(Did anybody see that LRB piece about the first performance of 4′33″? Some chap got up at the end and said "folks, let's run these people out of town". Deserves to be as well-known as the cries of "Judas", except this time the heckler was right.)
Posted by: ejh | September 28, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Early bid for Ollie Kamm's crown there by Justin...
Touch sarcky I know, but there is more to late C20th classical music than John Cage, or Stockhausen, or whoever your villains are. Its a bit like saying that C20th literature became shit, and then being nasty about Finnegan's Wake.
Posted by: Cian | September 28, 2010 at 11:11 AM
I don't think I've ever heard a song by Pete Doherty. Coldplay on the other hand are so fucking ubiquitous that even if you think you're ignoring them, it seeps in through ambient sound in shops, adverts, tv programmes...
I've had problems with my knees since my teens. Yoga helps. Sitting at a desk really doesn't.
Posted by: Cian | September 28, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Funnily enough, in just a few minutes I have to perform Eric Carle's From Head To Toe.
"I am a camel and I bend my knees. Can you do it?" "I can do it."
They creak all evening afterwards, but I can still bend 'em.
Posted by: ejh | September 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM
I think I draw the line (unheard) at Cornelius Cardew. The LRB article on him a year or two back tried valiantly to make him sound like a significant cultural milestone, but
really.
Posted by: Richard J | September 28, 2010 at 11:30 AM
Its a bit like saying that C20th literature became shit, and then being nasty about Finnegans Wake.
Yeah, but Joyce also wrote Ulysses. Whereas the pretentious wankers didn't, and there were loads of them all over the shop.
Maxwell-Davies on Orkney? Not fucking remote enough.
Posted by: ejh | September 28, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Harry Partsch is pretty much the cusp for me - "US Highball" in the Kronos Quartet version is good for annoying the wife, but "Delusions of the Fury" is just a little bit too annoying.
Pretentious wank?. I am not sure that your command of twentieth century music in general, or of the work of Peter Maxwell-Davies in particular, is actually as complete as all that.
Actually, thinking about it, this is a really bad example. If you don't like something like this then fair enough, but it's not something that could be credibly characterised as some wild and strange departure from a load of previous accessible classical music that you did like.
Posted by: dsquared | September 28, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Actually, even Cornelius Cardew ... I had never heard him either and apparently the improvised stuff is - well, it's like most other free improvisation. But searching through Youtube, that archive of otherwise totally unavailable stuff turns up a lot of totally unobjectionable piano pieces and this, which is rather nice I think.
Posted by: dsquared | September 28, 2010 at 02:40 PM
It all started to go downhill with the invention of the pianoforte, to be honest. No one's done much of note since then.
Posted by: ajay | September 28, 2010 at 02:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kok-dZbOqUg&feature=related
(The one video I've ever uploaded to Youtube.) Strangely listenable.
Posted by: Richard J | September 28, 2010 at 03:09 PM
It all started to go downhill with the invention of the pianoforte
It's just occurred to me what a bloody stupid name the quietloud has.
Posted by: Richard J | September 28, 2010 at 03:13 PM
Back on income, I'm not sure how rigorous this study is but in the main it supports Justin, I think (only 4 years on, but £30k average)
http://www.careers.ox.ac.uk/?o=4900
I tend to agree with him on a personal basis, I'd think four/fifths of the Oxford graduates I know well enough to make a stab at guessing this sort of thing were HRT at the age of 30. But sex (mostly male) and degree choice (mostly PPE) probably means that's on the high side of typical.
Posted by: Matthew | September 28, 2010 at 04:30 PM
It's just occurred to me what a bloody stupid name the quietloud has
no dafter than the "little big viol".
Posted by: dsquared | September 28, 2010 at 04:38 PM
Well, the average graduate earns £25k in his or her first job.
http://targetjobs.co.uk/careers-advice/choosing-an-employer/salary-faqs
So £30k with a degree plus four years' experience isn't exactly ludicrously high, is it?
Posted by: ajay | September 28, 2010 at 04:52 PM
Well, the average graduate earns £25k in his or her first job.
Not really what that link says, if you scroll on a bit (though having failed even to click on Jamie's link yesterday I'm not perhaps the one to say so).
Posted by: ejh | September 28, 2010 at 05:13 PM
The killer fact from the Oxford Uni leavers report is this:
"89%-96% of Oxford graduates 2004/2005 were satisfied with their career during the 3.5 years since graduation."
OK, I'd need comparative hard data from Poppleton U to measure this against, but I would bet a tenner that Oxford lies at the very high end of the distribution for this question.
Posted by: Chris Williams | September 28, 2010 at 05:22 PM
ejh: good point, I stand corrected.
Posted by: ajay | September 28, 2010 at 05:23 PM
I don't know what the current stats are, but a couple of years ago the median graduate starting salary was £16K or so; given the state of the economy over the past few years I'd think it was still well under £20K.
Posted by: Jakob | September 28, 2010 at 06:24 PM