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December 22, 2010

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ejh

It's also instructive that the most celebrated piece Cage ever wrote is that to which he contributed the smallest quantity of music.

If only Pierre Boulez had thought of it.

BenSix

I think Christmas is wonderfully representative of the rest of life. Despite vague religious connotations no one's quite sure what it means, so they just struggle through with companions, entertainment and generous quantities of alcohol to keep their spirits up.

Cian

It's also instructive that the most celebrated piece Cage ever wrote is that to which he contributed the smallest quantity of music.

Well it is, but possibly not the way that you mean. You're still not going to admit that some people might genuinely like Boulez then...?

BenSix

It's just struck me that there are probably hundreds of people who are devising silences of quite breathtaking quality...

And we'll never know. *Sniff*

ejh

You're still not going to admit that some people might genuinely like Boulez then...?

I would want serious convincing that they find the music engaging, rather than the ideas.

Besides, there's all sorts of music that people genuinely like that's nevertheless meretricious trash.

Doug

Oh dear, poor Philistine me for thinking it's pretentious bollocks for middle class wankers to drool over.

ejh

Didn't we have this routine once before?

Cian

Well you didn't describe Boulez as meretricious, so that's novel I guess.

Doug unless those "middle class wankers" are sneering at you because of your musical tastes, I think you've got a serious insecurity complex going on there. It doesn't matter. Move on...

john b

That's the second time today I've seen "middle class" used as an insult towards someone's opinions, used in a context where their class is both unknown and completely irrelevant (the other one was someone claiming that only middle class wankers would use the word "nigger" to make a social comment about racism, whereas presumably true-blooded working class folk would administer a well-deserved beating to anyone who'd use such a word in any context. Fuck you, Lenny Bruce, you middle-class ponce, see how my boot feels. Etc).

I can only assume 'middle class' is being used here to mean 'not a complete fucking idiot', which seems like a bit of a retrogade step in a wide variety of ways.

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