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November 29, 2011

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Barry Freed

This holiday season I think the CREEPING SHARIA brigade of Outer Wingnuttia is best represented by the furor over halal Butterball turkeys.

ajay

I love the picture on that article there. But selling halal food and not telling people it's halal is actually not a very nice thing to do, because if you're a Sikh you are, strictly speaking, forbidden from eating halal-killed meat.

(Of course, this isn't the reason the wingnuts use; they seem to be more concerned that Islam might be transmissible through the food chain or something.)

Keir

Er, isn't that the reason Sikhs don't eat halal meat, roughly? 16th century Punjab not always being a place of great religious harmony.

(And of course the rule on vegetarianism in the langar is allegedly to allow anyone to eat, but then cf. vashnaivaism in Hinduism/Jainism.)

ajay

Yeah, pretty much. What I meant was that the wingnuts aren't saying "halal food should be labelled because not doing so is bad for Sikhs", they're just anti anything vaguely Islamic-sounding because they think it's unclean or something.

Barry Freed

Sikhs? They wear turbans right? What's the diff? /wingnut

Yeah, they don't want to catch Muslim cooties. Yet another anti-Semitic trope they've managed to reproduce.

john b

I'm sceptical there's real difference between Christian fucknuts not wanting to consume evil Muslim meat and Sikh fucknuts not wanting to likewise...

Mordaunt

I'm sceptical there's real difference between Christian fucknuts not wanting to consume evil Muslim meat and Sikh fucknuts not wanting to likewise...

Broadly speaking you have Sikhs declaring UDI from Islam and Hinduism in the 17th Century and not eating Halal meat being part of that. Christians, OTOH, don't really have dietary rules except not eating meat sacrificed to idols if it might cause a fuss at the dinner table.

So getting one's knickers in a knot about Halal, for Sikhs, is about identity. For Christians, not so much. There are arguments about animal welfare, of course, but I bet the average US wingnut isn't scrupulous about establishing whether or not his or her MacDonalds is free-range.

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